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hydrak · Jun 24, 2005, 04:02 PM // 16:02

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Originally Posted by Night

No offence intended here but 4 x 4 or 8 x 8 is a war? A war in my opinion would involved a crap load more people so the "its called guild wars" IMO doesn't mean a whole nor does it invalidate the fact this game has PvP system which is major component. A war would included alliances between factions as well and I have yet to come across any real way of creating an alliance or allied guilds outsided of understood or implied alliances. IMO doesn't mean a whole nor does it invalidate the fact this game has PvP system which is major component. I'd be all for it myself.

Besides what is the problem with the same builds being everywhere? If its the exact same make up then doesn't in turn into a skill fight which if this is the case, isn't that what makes GW so much better? No one is saying you have to do 1 on 1's just like no one is saying you have to HoH or any other type of PvP. I don't see a problem with adding a 1 on 1 feature. It just adds another tidbit to the game.

If you like 1vs1 so much, you can always go back to diablo2 or WoW where you can maul another player 20 levels lower than you at will. 1vs1 PvP will never be balanced and anet will get alot more complaints if they ever add this feature.

rii · Jun 24, 2005, 04:34 PM // 16:34

Why do people say Guild Wars is so balanced?
I mean it is, but to be honest 90% of the player base dont know every skill in the game, which is more or less necessary for this game to be balanced. Then, people go around, and know exactly what to do, and player skill in game is all that matters. At the moment, theres a huge gap where some people just dont know better (dont mean to be rude) and therefore while the classes are balanced, the players arent. 1v1 arena would work, but it wouldnt be lifesiphon that wins it.

hydrak · Jun 24, 2005, 04:45 PM // 16:45

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Originally Posted by rii

Why do people say Guild Wars is so balanced?
I mean it is, but to be honest 90% of the player base dont know every skill in the game, which is more or less necessary for this game to be balanced. Then, people go around, and know exactly what to do, and player skill in game is all that matters. At the moment, theres a huge gap where some people just dont know better (dont mean to be rude) and therefore while the classes are balanced, the players arent. 1v1 arena would work, but it wouldnt be lifesiphon that wins it.

4vs4 or 8vs8 is more balanced than 1vs1 because the weakness of one build can be covered by another person on your team and vice versa. Think about it.

drowningfish999 · Jun 24, 2005, 05:24 PM // 17:24

As long as their isn't any big reward or anything, or the reward is seperate from the HoH PvP, then I don't see why there is anything wrong with this. Maybe there could be a seperate scorechart that lists the classes you've played and wins/losses to them. Since no one is being forced to play in them, balance can't really be an issue, since it's 100% opptional if you play at all.

ICURADik · Jun 24, 2005, 05:35 PM // 17:35

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Originally Posted by StandardAI

The warrior with life siphon/life transfer would win every time, There's a reason why there isn't a 1v1 arena, and rightly so there isn't one.

War or Rng/Mes would probaly be king. Energy denial + steady dps + good armor.

Mo/E using Obsidian Flesh and mass enchants would also be very popular.

ICURADik · Jun 24, 2005, 05:37 PM // 17:37

BTW, I'm all for this idea. Would allow much more open amount of testing within guilds.

Mister Pie · Jun 24, 2005, 07:54 PM // 19:54

It would be a fun idea as long as people don't take it too seriously. I can see way too many people taking a loss to heart and then posting all over the boards about imbalance.

speedtouch · Jun 25, 2005, 12:19 AM // 00:19

It's stupid if you never add this in

Who cares if you suck at it, you don't even have to do it.If you think 1 vs 1 is imbalanced just don't use it.
There should be NO rewards and NO penaltys at all, something to do for fun.

and please stop telling us to play games that have the stuff we're suggesting.

suggests mounts, reply: GO PLAY WOW
suggests player housing, reply: GO PLAY THE SIMS
suggests pet armor, reply: GO PLAY NEOPETS
suggests 1 vs 1 battles, reply: GO PLAY WOW

Like sheesh, you don't always have to compare to another game every topic you hate.

Firestreak · Jun 25, 2005, 01:46 AM // 01:46

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Originally Posted by speedtouch

It's stupid if you never add this in

Who cares if you suck at it, you don't even have to do it.If you think 1 vs 1 is imbalanced just don't use it.
There should be NO rewards and NO penaltys at all, something to do for fun.

and please stop telling us to play games that have the stuff we're suggesting.

suggests mounts, reply: GO PLAY WOW
suggests player housing, reply: GO PLAY THE SIMS
suggests pet armor, reply: GO PLAY NEOPETS
suggests 1 vs 1 battles, reply: GO PLAY WOW

Like sheesh, you don't always have to compare to another game every topic you hate.

I thought GW was a game that took other RPG concepts to make the ultimate RPG. 1v1 would be a fine addition to the game. Besides, participating in it is like watching a tv channel. You either can watch it, or you can not watch it. The channels there for every other subscriber to either watch or not watch also.

Indigo · Jun 25, 2005, 03:33 AM // 03:33

If a practice arena was added to the Guild hall this entire argument would be moot. Then you could practice with your guildmates 1v1, 2v1, 3v2, or some other combination up to 8v8, if you wanted... If there is to be a "practice arena" the guild hall is where it should be.

varyag · Jun 25, 2005, 03:37 AM // 03:37

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Originally Posted by Firestreak

I really think we need a 1 versus 1 arena.

Anyways, the point of this post is that I think we need a 1v1 addition to the game. Do you agree, disagree, and why so. Also, if yes, how would it be done?

I removed all the unnecessary and contraversial poo you first wrote.
Keep it simple.

We need 1v1 for testing. Which damage dealer of the two does more damage? Which mesmer is best at shutting down a monk, another mesmer? Etcetera.

(maybe it should only be availiable within a guild, in the guildhall)

arredondo · Jun 25, 2005, 03:37 AM // 03:37

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Originally Posted by Indigo

If a practice arena was added to the Guild hall this entire argument would be moot. Then you could practice with your guildmates 1v1, 2v1, 3v2, or some other combination up to 8v8, if you wanted... If there is to be a "practice arena" the guild hall is where it should be.

Quoted for genius... and also because i suggested the exact same thing.

varyag · Jun 25, 2005, 03:40 AM // 03:40

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Originally Posted by arredondo

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Originally Posted by Indigo
If a practice arena was added to the Guild hall this entire argument would be moot. Then you could practice with your guildmates 1v1, 2v1, 3v2, or some other combination up to 8v8, if you wanted... If there is to be a "practice arena" the guild hall is where it should be.

Quoted for genius... and also because i suggested the exact same thing. Quoted for genius... and also because i suggested the exact same thing.

I raise by double quoting your quote. *two thumbs up*

Racthoh · Jun 25, 2005, 04:34 AM // 04:34

It would give warriors something to do rather than waiting 15 minutes in the HoH waiting for a party to take pity on them and invite. Unless you're an aftershock/knockdown warrior, no one wants you. In a 1v1, there would be no waiting, just fighting.

Also no more after one match half the party leaves because you lost. And it would be a lot better than say Diablo II because unlike it that game you can't hack in the best stuff.

And if it's just used for the purpose of testing, then why all the complaints?

Pashet · Jun 25, 2005, 05:37 AM // 05:37

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Originally Posted by speedtouch

There should be NO rewards and NO penaltys at all, something to do for fun.

and please stop telling us to play games that have the stuff we're suggesting.

suggests mounts, reply: GO PLAY WOW
suggests player housing, reply: GO PLAY THE SIMS
suggests pet armor, reply: GO PLAY NEOPETS
suggests 1 vs 1 battles, reply: GO PLAY WOW

Like sheesh, you don't always have to compare to another game every topic you hate.

Bravo! I agree. I'm tired of everyone badmouthing every idea that comes out of someones mouth.

As for this idea. I like it. Even if it's just to play around. For people who are new to PvP it would be a godsend. Get them used to the idea of battle against a real player, practice, figure out strategy, etc. One battle in the acedemy doesn't do it for you.